Revised Historical Perspective
Let us speak frankly about the Jews.
Vela incident 22 Sep 1979 ['flash' in the Indian Ocean detected by the American Vela spy satellite], and
Mengele 'false flagging' incident the month previous [ORDER TO ARREST MENGELE UPON HIS ARRIVAL IN MIAMI, Secret Cable State Department to United States Embassy Asuncion 28 August 1979 signed VANCE]
were disinformation efforts undertaken by the Jews related to Allard Lowenstein bringing AIDS to Africa AND down-selecting Robert Mugabe to break Rhodesia in a calculated manner as part of a two stage process 1979 ['ying and yang' so to speak].
In context, the Lowenstein AIDS Africa Rhodesia operations took place between the Shah leaving Iran 16 January 1979 and the Hostage Crisis of 04 November 1979. How BAD is it. What is the bottom line in the Jewish treachery?
I think they instigated the Dulce incident with an alien attack and human sacrifice which ends up being pivotal in subsequent activity [AIDS]. That is such a horrible possibility [an orchestrated Dulce] I can barely articulate it, but I increasingly think its true. Heard it here first.
NOW - December 2006 - they have seized control of computer operations in federal buildings and Kinkos retail outlets [elsewhere - now a public library in the District of Columbia] to prevent my uploading photographs to illustrate this sad situation.
Swine. These are not popular points, but I should be allowed to articulate them - and illustrate them - as fully as possible. The Israeli government is a disgrace to the CIA ACLU.
Anyway, in part at the behest of Carter and Andrew Young [as collaborators or reformers isn't clear], Lowenstein made three trips to Africa immediately in the time period; he did at least a partial 'duck and cover' out of the United Nations, traveled on [United States] government business, and apparently was also supported by DeBeers if not Rothschild interests. The whole thing was actually coordinated through Israel, to the point where there is now a question about Lowenstein being an Israeli plant in the CIA [at best] and totally losing track of all ethical grounding in a BLIND allegiance to Zionism [at worst]. They show no remorse and no sign of immediately addressing - ending - this frankly catastrophic situation. Actually, 'catastrophic' per se was probably the late 1980s and early 1990s, but the situation is still not good and it continues. Jews kill the Negroes.
All they can do is cop a 'system' plea [hate the game and not the players]; their involvement is beyond denying.
Our - my - modest contribution is resolving certain loose ends associated with the operations as we try to bring the invidious activity to an end, presumably dismantling what are attack mechanisms hugely undermining democratic government and supervision of the CIA/Mossad and their various independent funding mechanisms.
SIMON WIESENTHAL was a lying swine who cooperated in disinformation schemes designed to shield Nazis - certainly Mengele - after World War II. WHY did he do it? You want to capture 'em - capture 'em. You want to forget about it and move on - forget about it and move on. NO. It turns out that for all their angst and crying, all the treacherous Jews really wanted was the manipulation issue. Ex-Nazis were never a significant or anyway pivotal issue - it was the generations of American school children they were targeting. You'll have to excuse me for my bitterness - I was one. April 15 2002 I demonstrated for Israel at the Capital in Washington D.C. Now let me say, "Never again."
AFX News Limited
World mourns Simon Wiesenthal, Nazi hunter
09.20.2005, 12:46 PM
PARIS (AFX) - Nazi hunter Simon Wiesenthal, who died in Vienna today aged 96, was lauded across the world as a 'tenacious' fighter who kept alive the cause of justice for victims of the Holocaust.
......'He was the conscience of the world,' Aver Shalev, the director of Israel's Holocaust memorial, said in Jerusalem.
'The Jewish people and all of humanity owe a lot to him because he acted systematically and very strongly ... He will be remembered as a symbol for the Jewish and human conscience, the need to protect moral values.'
Wiesenthal helped bring more than 1,100 Nazi criminals to justice including Adolf Eichmann, the mastermind of Hitler's 'Final Solution,' who was tracked down by Israeli agents in Argentina in 1960.
Six million Jews were murdered by Adolf Hitler's Nazis in World War II.
Israeli President Moshe Katsav, on a visit to Latvia, said Wiesenthal was a fighter who had left the world a better place. 'Simon Wiesenthal was the biggest fighter of our generation. He represented the morality of humanity; he represented the free world, the democratic world,' Katsav said.....
--LIAR, Wiesenthal was a manipulative LIAR --
SURVEILLANCE ELEMENTS ARE [STILL] NOT LETTING PICTURES POST.
So this gets to be a lot of text with no graphic. Anyway, you knew Bush is swine - now you find out there is significant continuity in Nazi activity effectively covered up - in some cases instigated - by the Jews.
Where to begin.
George H.W. Bush put my brother [and two other soldiers and a woman friend] in the river 1984. Following citation is from Wikipedia, CIA on the internet with the interesting observation that the CIA appears to be outsource-ing their entry and possibly writing constructions to foreign countries while American spies - or at least the low level clerical support - need work.
OH THE SWINE.
WHY did Bush put my brother in the river? Turns out the Nazis had similarly maintained their own resistance effort as a way of tracking - and compromising - potentially 'treasonous' activity.
Wikipedia. Conspiratorial groups planning a coup of some kind had existed in the German Army and the military intelligence organisation (the Abwehr) since 1938. Early leaders of these plots included Brigadier-General Hans Oster, head of the Abwehr Military Intelligence Office, a former Army Chief of Staff, General Ludwig Beck, and Field Marshal Erwin von Witzleben.....
SORRY. CANARIS WAS ALWAYS LOYAL. The implication here is that Oster got away from him, and I don't think that's true.
....During 1942 Oster and Tresckow [follow these guys] nevertheless succeeded in rebuilding an effective resistance network. Their most important recruit was General Friedrich Olbricht, head of the General Army Office headquartered at the Bendlerblock in central Berlin, who controlled an independent system of communications to reserve units all over Germany. Linking this asset to Tresckow’s resistance group in Army Group Centre created what appeared to a viable structure for a new effort at organising a coup.
I THINK THAT WAS CANARIS ORIGINATED.
In late 1942 Tresckow and Olbricht formulated a plan to assassinate Hitler and stage a coup during Hitler's visit to the headquarters of Army Group Centre at Smolensk in March 1943, by placing a bomb on his plane. The bomb did not go off, and a second attempt a few days later, when Hitler visited an exhibition of captured Soviet weaponry in Berlin, also failed. I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT. These failures demoralised the conspirators. During 1943 they tried without success to recruit senior Army field commanders such as Field Marshal Collin Erich von Manstein and Field Marshal Gerd von Rundstedt, to support a seizure of power.
By mid 1943 the tide of war was turning decisively against Germany. The Army plotters and their civilian allies became convinced that Hitler must be assassinated so that a government acceptable to the western Allies could be formed and a separate peace negotiated in time to prevent a Soviet invasion of Germany. In August 1943 Tresckow met a young staff officer, Colonel Claus Schenk Graf von Stauffenberg, for the first time. Badly wounded in North Africa, Stauffenberg was a political conservative and a zealous German nationalist with a taste for philosophy. He had at first welcomed the Nazi regime but had become rapidly disillusioned. By 1942 he shared the widespead conviction among Army officers that Germany was being led to disaster and that Hitler must be removed from power. For some time his religious scruples had prevented him from coming to the conclusion that assassination was the correct way to achieve this. After Stalingrad, however, he decided that not assassinating Hitler would be a greater moral evil. He brought a new tone of fanaticism to the ranks of the resistance. A SHEEP LED TO SLAUGHTER. DUPE. RUBE. PEOPLE LIKE THIS GUY ARE DANGEROUS.
Olbricht now put forward to Tresckow and Stauffenberg a new strategy for staging a coup against Hitler. The Reserve Army had an operational plan called Operation Walküre (Valkyrie), which was to be used in the event that the disruption caused by the Allied bombing of German cities caused a breakdown in law and order, or a rising by the millions of slave labourers from occupied countries now being used in German factories. Olbricht suggested that this plan could be used to mobilise the Reserve Army to take control of German cities, disarm the SS and arrest the Nazi leadership, once Hitler had been successfully assassinated. Operation Valkyrie could only be put into effect by General Friedrich Fromm, commander of the Reserve Army, so he must either be won over to the conspiracy or in some way neutralised if the plan was to succeed. Fromm, like many senior officers, knew in general about the military conspiracies against Hitler but neither supported them nor reported them to the Gestapo.
During late 1943 and early 1944 there were a series of attempts to get one of the military conspirators near enough to Hitler for long enough to kill him with a bomb or a revolver. But the task was becoming increasingly difficult. THEY WERE PLAYING GAMES. As the war situation deteriorated, Hitler no longer appeared in public and rarely visited Berlin. He spent most of his time at his headquarters at the Wolfschanze (Wolf's Lair) near Rastenburg in East Prussia, with occasional breaks at his Bavarian mountain retreat in Berchtesgaden. In both places he was heavily guarded and rarely saw people he did not already know and trust. Himmler and the Gestapo were increasingly suspicious of plots against Hitler, and specifically suspected the officers of the General Staff, which was indeed the place where most of the young officers willing to sacrifice themselves to kill Hitler were located. All these attempts therefore failed, sometimes by a matter of minutes.
By the summer of 1944 the Gestapo was closing in on the conspirators. NO. THE GESTAPO AND INNER CIRCLE HAD FINALIZED THE EVACUATION SEQUENCING. There was a sense that time was running out, both on the battlefield, where the eastern front was in full retreat and where the Allies had landed in France on 6 June, and in Germany, where the resistance’s room for manoeuvre was rapidly contracting. The belief that this was the last chance for action seized the conspirators. By this time the core of the conspirators had begun to think of themselves as doomed men, whose actions were more symbolic than real. A GUESS IS THAT FEELING WAS CULTIVATED. The purpose of the conspiracy came to be seen by some of them as saving the honour of themselves, their families, the Army and Germany through a grand, if futile, gesture, rather than actually altering the course of history.
One of [MASTER] Tresckow’s aides, [DRONE] Lieutenant Heinrich Graf von Lehndorff-Steinort, wrote to [SLAVE] Stauffenberg: “The assassination must be attempted, coûte que coûte [whatever the cost]. Even if it fails, we must take action in Berlin. For the practical purpose no longer matters; what matters now is that the German resistance movement must take the plunge before the eyes of the world and of history. Compared to that, nothing else matters.”
In retrospect, it is surprising that these months of plotting by the resistance groups in the Army and the state apparatus, in which dozens of people were involved and of which many more, including very senior Army officers, were aware, apparently totally escaped the attention of the Gestapo. In fact the Gestapo had known since February 1943 of both the Abwehr resistance group under the patronage of Admiral Wilhelm Canaris and of the civilian resistance circle around former Leipzig mayor Carl Goerdeler. If all these people had been arrested and interrogated, the Gestapo might well have uncovered the group based in Army Group Centre as well and the July 20 assassination attempt would never have happened. This raises the possibility that Himmler knew about the plot and, for reasons of his own, allowed it to go ahead.
NOT REALLY. IT DEFINITELY RAISES THE PROBABILITY CANARIS AND HIMMLER WERE GAMING IN A 'DRAW DOWN' OR REDUCTION SEQUENCE, HOWEVER. HELLO. HELLO. CAN ANY OLD[ER] NAZIS HEAR ME?
Himmler had at least one conversation with a known oppositionist when, in August 1943, the Prussian Finance Minister Johannes Popitz, who was involved in Goerdeler's network, came to see him and offered him the support of the opposition if he would make a move to displace Hitler and secure a negotiated end to the war. Nothing came of this meeting, but Popitz was not arrested and Himmler apparently did nothing to track down the resistance network which he knew was operating within the state bureaucracy. WRONG. HE DID NOT STOP IT BUT HE TRACKED IT. AND HE ALSO RAN A WAR - THOSE GUYS REALLY WERE EFFICIENT. It is possible that Himmler, who by late 1943 knew that the war was unwinnable, allowed the July 20 plot to go ahead in the knowledge that if it succeeded he would be Hitler's successor, and could then bring about a peace settlement. Popitz was not alone in seeing in Himmler a potential ally. General von Bock advised Tresckow to seek his support, but there is no evidence that he did so. Goerdeler was apparently also in indirect contact with Himmler via a mutual acquaintance Carl Langbehn. Canaris's biographer Heinz Höhne suggests that Canaris and Himmler were working together [YES] to bring about a change of regime [NO]...... [end citation]
THEY MASTERFULLY MANIPULATED THE RESISTANCE TO THEIR OWN GOVERNMENT. INCREDIBLE. And still have academics kissing their ass and calling it roses. Most people - certainly the blind in academia - think it was resistance but the opposite is true: in fact it was enhancement. NEVER, ever, call the Nazis stupid, because they were not stupid.
Bush, on the other hand, is SWINE. And word on the street is that Dulles - wherever he is and whatever he looks like - does not have as many friends as he thinks he has. It is even possible he had Bush put my brother in the river as some kind of bizarre 'master stroke' I am now trying to make him regret. Double swine. The worst thing about it is that the Nazis really didn't take down guys who were loyal to them, and that is something Bush [and Dulles] specialize in. That is what characterizes them. That is their whole game plan. As follows:
....killed on or about June 3, 1985.... In 1983, Buckley succeeded Ken Haas as the Beirut Station Chief/Political Officer at the U.S. Embassy, but was kidnapped by the Islamist group Hezbollah on March 16, 1984. Hezbollah was closely allied to Iran and Buckley was smuggled to Tehran via Damascus aboard an Iranian plane at some point during his captivity. After undergoing torture, it was soon discovered that he was a senior CIA officer. Buckley was ultimately tortured for 444 days. [Wikipedia, CIA on the internet].
STOP WORKING FOR THE ISRAELIS. Do not serve the Zionist movement.
Finally a supposedly independent commission that actually was independent, and their report gets no respect. Bush has a CIA plan for ethnic segregation in Iraq and doesn't want to compromise now. Shortsighted - if we're there we can't protest that it happened, but if we leave we can always wail in angst over it and maybe get United Nations support to intervene [or re-intervene as it were]. Deniability claiming we weren't in on it and certainly didn't originate the idea.
Their military and police reside in a culture which the Americans can resist but I don't think they can ultimately shape other than by simply killing people and physically dividing the place. French Algeria.
We should leave; PLEASE do not let Bush 'Palestinian-ize' Iraq.
William Buckley [middle] was betrayed by George H.W. Bush and Ted Shackley as a way of bringing Bill Casey and the Reagan administration wholeheartedly into Iran Contra. As noted, conceptually kidnapped March 16, 1984 and killed on or about June 3 1985.
I had a brother, John Roser Bestor, 3rd Inf Reg Old Guard. PRIOR to joining the service he interviewed with a job for the CIA but they apparently did not hire him; AFTER joining the Army he alleged there were loyalty issues in the unit [officers and senior NCOs were educating the troops away from respect for civilian oversight of the military] and promptly drowned in the Potomac mid-May 1984.
Fairly certain George H.W.Bush betrayed Buckley, the proximate timing is certainly of interest to me.
To the best of my knowledge Buckley did die and my brother did drown. At issue is whether Bush betrayed them both. My brother went into the river at the base of a dam, and I can't imagine how anybody could save a struggling man who thought he was drowning - never mind a girl and two other soldiers who were with him [Brian and Raymond]. Two frogmen [Navy Seals] per person with air tanks or breathing devices maybe shared[?] - before smuggling them out of the river for facial recontructive surgery and new lives. Army puts them in the water and all the officers unified in denying it in their contempt for civilian oversight over the military; they probably wouldn't call the cops but just be lucky to get away. If somebody had saved them they would probably split the soldiers up - they might have made my brother marry the girl as a way of locking him down but really the whole thing sounds too extreme.
That is a stretch. Who could command Navy Seals or frogmen anyway. Well, my brother was taking courses at American University and its possible he spoke with a professor about the [dis]loyalty issue. And the professor was maybe tied to the CIA[?] and they heard about the plot and rescued him. They heard about the plot, and then they undertook surveillance to uncover the details of the plot. And rescued them. No, George H.W.Bush commanded the CIA. It wouldn't have been the Agency 'covertly' covertly riding to the rescue. Double undercover covertly.
Perhaps an officer in the 3rd Inf Reg heard talk of the plan and somehow got to a command authority apart from the unit [Army officer thru a mechanism to Navy Seals or anyway damn good frogmen because you wouldn't want the soldiers who thought they were drowning to pull down the guys trying to save them which I bet is a real danger in a stunt like that]. That might initially save the guys, but after that what happens; those secrets generally don't keep [three soldiers, eight frogmen, media interface and ultimately the funerals represent a curve in the road]. Grow a beard and move to Oregon - get out of Dodge. He might let you go - he might not, but I am pretty confident George H.W.Bush would ultimately hear snitches coming back about that because he commands a whole structure of people who are just dying to tell him secrets. In the same time period they kidnapped children and sold them into homosexual slavery [Johnny Gosch 1982], and to the best of my knowledge they never let those guys just escape even after they grew up but if they got away they had to stay in hiding. Mrs. Gosch suggested on Indian reservations. Supposedly Ross Perot had located escaped American POWs in Southeast Asia on the margins of Thailand 1992 but couldn't return them to the United States. That was going to be the 'October Surprise,' and Bush got wind of it and killed it.
If some structure or organization broke you free, my guess is that if they throw you long it might be the Army - somebody's brother has a place in the mountains west of Fort Carson. Grow a beard and work a lift in a ski resort winters. I would think that keeping you close - under their thumb - is almost certainly Agency.
Either way I see George H.W. Bush in on it, and my guess is that if the guys DID NOT drowned or if Buckley did not really die then Bush was behind the whole thing. CIA relentlessly plays both sides of any coin, and Bush may have been intending to create his own 'opposition' as both a way of unifying his supporters and as a way of marginalizing forces in the bureaucracy which were and are against the larger manipulation scenarios. Hush hush secret; what an ***hole. Both Buckley and my brother were ways of attacking civil infrastructure and extending CIA effectivity - I cannot believe my brother once wanted to join the Agency on his own. Misguided.
So if you were to finalize the scenario however unlikely, you might say Bush put them in the river, he pulled them out, and now he probably wants to send them to Iraq to die. Put 'em in, pulled 'em out, ****ed with 'em for years [and they could never quite figure it out - just a bad break; people didn't work for you like they might have worked for somebody else, intangible, 'personality' which put 'em in the water in the first place], and now he wants to kill 'em. BUSH IS SWINE. Were the other soldiers - Brian and Ray - PISSED OFF or what [did they stay in or move on]. Pressure my brother into marrying the girl. Hopefully she's done well by him or really tried with honest effort; he would try for her. Or maybe they laughed and divorced and walked. If you live through the river don't go to Iraq.
Resist without throwing your guys under the tank treads; beware of treachery in a very fluid environment, but most of all stay with the sense of history and what you represent.
Vela incident 22 Sep 1979 ['flash' in the Indian Ocean detected by the American Vela spy satellite], and
Mengele 'false flagging' incident the month previous [ORDER TO ARREST MENGELE UPON HIS ARRIVAL IN MIAMI, Secret Cable State Department to United States Embassy Asuncion 28 August 1979 signed VANCE]
were disinformation efforts undertaken by the Jews related to Allard Lowenstein bringing AIDS to Africa AND down-selecting Robert Mugabe to break Rhodesia in a calculated manner as part of a two stage process 1979 ['ying and yang' so to speak].
In context, the Lowenstein AIDS Africa Rhodesia operations took place between the Shah leaving Iran 16 January 1979 and the Hostage Crisis of 04 November 1979. How BAD is it. What is the bottom line in the Jewish treachery?
I think they instigated the Dulce incident with an alien attack and human sacrifice which ends up being pivotal in subsequent activity [AIDS]. That is such a horrible possibility [an orchestrated Dulce] I can barely articulate it, but I increasingly think its true. Heard it here first.
NOW - December 2006 - they have seized control of computer operations in federal buildings and Kinkos retail outlets [elsewhere - now a public library in the District of Columbia] to prevent my uploading photographs to illustrate this sad situation.
Swine. These are not popular points, but I should be allowed to articulate them - and illustrate them - as fully as possible. The Israeli government is a disgrace to the CIA ACLU.
Anyway, in part at the behest of Carter and Andrew Young [as collaborators or reformers isn't clear], Lowenstein made three trips to Africa immediately in the time period; he did at least a partial 'duck and cover' out of the United Nations, traveled on [United States] government business, and apparently was also supported by DeBeers if not Rothschild interests. The whole thing was actually coordinated through Israel, to the point where there is now a question about Lowenstein being an Israeli plant in the CIA [at best] and totally losing track of all ethical grounding in a BLIND allegiance to Zionism [at worst]. They show no remorse and no sign of immediately addressing - ending - this frankly catastrophic situation. Actually, 'catastrophic' per se was probably the late 1980s and early 1990s, but the situation is still not good and it continues. Jews kill the Negroes.
All they can do is cop a 'system' plea [hate the game and not the players]; their involvement is beyond denying.
Our - my - modest contribution is resolving certain loose ends associated with the operations as we try to bring the invidious activity to an end, presumably dismantling what are attack mechanisms hugely undermining democratic government and supervision of the CIA/Mossad and their various independent funding mechanisms.
SIMON WIESENTHAL was a lying swine who cooperated in disinformation schemes designed to shield Nazis - certainly Mengele - after World War II. WHY did he do it? You want to capture 'em - capture 'em. You want to forget about it and move on - forget about it and move on. NO. It turns out that for all their angst and crying, all the treacherous Jews really wanted was the manipulation issue. Ex-Nazis were never a significant or anyway pivotal issue - it was the generations of American school children they were targeting. You'll have to excuse me for my bitterness - I was one. April 15 2002 I demonstrated for Israel at the Capital in Washington D.C. Now let me say, "Never again."
AFX News Limited
World mourns Simon Wiesenthal, Nazi hunter
09.20.2005, 12:46 PM
PARIS (AFX) - Nazi hunter Simon Wiesenthal, who died in Vienna today aged 96, was lauded across the world as a 'tenacious' fighter who kept alive the cause of justice for victims of the Holocaust.
......'He was the conscience of the world,' Aver Shalev, the director of Israel's Holocaust memorial, said in Jerusalem.
'The Jewish people and all of humanity owe a lot to him because he acted systematically and very strongly ... He will be remembered as a symbol for the Jewish and human conscience, the need to protect moral values.'
Wiesenthal helped bring more than 1,100 Nazi criminals to justice including Adolf Eichmann, the mastermind of Hitler's 'Final Solution,' who was tracked down by Israeli agents in Argentina in 1960.
Six million Jews were murdered by Adolf Hitler's Nazis in World War II.
Israeli President Moshe Katsav, on a visit to Latvia, said Wiesenthal was a fighter who had left the world a better place. 'Simon Wiesenthal was the biggest fighter of our generation. He represented the morality of humanity; he represented the free world, the democratic world,' Katsav said.....
--LIAR, Wiesenthal was a manipulative LIAR --
SURVEILLANCE ELEMENTS ARE [STILL] NOT LETTING PICTURES POST.
So this gets to be a lot of text with no graphic. Anyway, you knew Bush is swine - now you find out there is significant continuity in Nazi activity effectively covered up - in some cases instigated - by the Jews.
Where to begin.
George H.W. Bush put my brother [and two other soldiers and a woman friend] in the river 1984. Following citation is from Wikipedia, CIA on the internet with the interesting observation that the CIA appears to be outsource-ing their entry and possibly writing constructions to foreign countries while American spies - or at least the low level clerical support - need work.
OH THE SWINE.
WHY did Bush put my brother in the river? Turns out the Nazis had similarly maintained their own resistance effort as a way of tracking - and compromising - potentially 'treasonous' activity.
Wikipedia. Conspiratorial groups planning a coup of some kind had existed in the German Army and the military intelligence organisation (the Abwehr) since 1938. Early leaders of these plots included Brigadier-General Hans Oster, head of the Abwehr Military Intelligence Office, a former Army Chief of Staff, General Ludwig Beck, and Field Marshal Erwin von Witzleben.....
SORRY. CANARIS WAS ALWAYS LOYAL. The implication here is that Oster got away from him, and I don't think that's true.
....During 1942 Oster and Tresckow [follow these guys] nevertheless succeeded in rebuilding an effective resistance network. Their most important recruit was General Friedrich Olbricht, head of the General Army Office headquartered at the Bendlerblock in central Berlin, who controlled an independent system of communications to reserve units all over Germany. Linking this asset to Tresckow’s resistance group in Army Group Centre created what appeared to a viable structure for a new effort at organising a coup.
I THINK THAT WAS CANARIS ORIGINATED.
In late 1942 Tresckow and Olbricht formulated a plan to assassinate Hitler and stage a coup during Hitler's visit to the headquarters of Army Group Centre at Smolensk in March 1943, by placing a bomb on his plane. The bomb did not go off, and a second attempt a few days later, when Hitler visited an exhibition of captured Soviet weaponry in Berlin, also failed. I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT. These failures demoralised the conspirators. During 1943 they tried without success to recruit senior Army field commanders such as Field Marshal Collin Erich von Manstein and Field Marshal Gerd von Rundstedt, to support a seizure of power.
By mid 1943 the tide of war was turning decisively against Germany. The Army plotters and their civilian allies became convinced that Hitler must be assassinated so that a government acceptable to the western Allies could be formed and a separate peace negotiated in time to prevent a Soviet invasion of Germany. In August 1943 Tresckow met a young staff officer, Colonel Claus Schenk Graf von Stauffenberg, for the first time. Badly wounded in North Africa, Stauffenberg was a political conservative and a zealous German nationalist with a taste for philosophy. He had at first welcomed the Nazi regime but had become rapidly disillusioned. By 1942 he shared the widespead conviction among Army officers that Germany was being led to disaster and that Hitler must be removed from power. For some time his religious scruples had prevented him from coming to the conclusion that assassination was the correct way to achieve this. After Stalingrad, however, he decided that not assassinating Hitler would be a greater moral evil. He brought a new tone of fanaticism to the ranks of the resistance. A SHEEP LED TO SLAUGHTER. DUPE. RUBE. PEOPLE LIKE THIS GUY ARE DANGEROUS.
Olbricht now put forward to Tresckow and Stauffenberg a new strategy for staging a coup against Hitler. The Reserve Army had an operational plan called Operation Walküre (Valkyrie), which was to be used in the event that the disruption caused by the Allied bombing of German cities caused a breakdown in law and order, or a rising by the millions of slave labourers from occupied countries now being used in German factories. Olbricht suggested that this plan could be used to mobilise the Reserve Army to take control of German cities, disarm the SS and arrest the Nazi leadership, once Hitler had been successfully assassinated. Operation Valkyrie could only be put into effect by General Friedrich Fromm, commander of the Reserve Army, so he must either be won over to the conspiracy or in some way neutralised if the plan was to succeed. Fromm, like many senior officers, knew in general about the military conspiracies against Hitler but neither supported them nor reported them to the Gestapo.
During late 1943 and early 1944 there were a series of attempts to get one of the military conspirators near enough to Hitler for long enough to kill him with a bomb or a revolver. But the task was becoming increasingly difficult. THEY WERE PLAYING GAMES. As the war situation deteriorated, Hitler no longer appeared in public and rarely visited Berlin. He spent most of his time at his headquarters at the Wolfschanze (Wolf's Lair) near Rastenburg in East Prussia, with occasional breaks at his Bavarian mountain retreat in Berchtesgaden. In both places he was heavily guarded and rarely saw people he did not already know and trust. Himmler and the Gestapo were increasingly suspicious of plots against Hitler, and specifically suspected the officers of the General Staff, which was indeed the place where most of the young officers willing to sacrifice themselves to kill Hitler were located. All these attempts therefore failed, sometimes by a matter of minutes.
By the summer of 1944 the Gestapo was closing in on the conspirators. NO. THE GESTAPO AND INNER CIRCLE HAD FINALIZED THE EVACUATION SEQUENCING. There was a sense that time was running out, both on the battlefield, where the eastern front was in full retreat and where the Allies had landed in France on 6 June, and in Germany, where the resistance’s room for manoeuvre was rapidly contracting. The belief that this was the last chance for action seized the conspirators. By this time the core of the conspirators had begun to think of themselves as doomed men, whose actions were more symbolic than real. A GUESS IS THAT FEELING WAS CULTIVATED. The purpose of the conspiracy came to be seen by some of them as saving the honour of themselves, their families, the Army and Germany through a grand, if futile, gesture, rather than actually altering the course of history.
One of [MASTER] Tresckow’s aides, [DRONE] Lieutenant Heinrich Graf von Lehndorff-Steinort, wrote to [SLAVE] Stauffenberg: “The assassination must be attempted, coûte que coûte [whatever the cost]. Even if it fails, we must take action in Berlin. For the practical purpose no longer matters; what matters now is that the German resistance movement must take the plunge before the eyes of the world and of history. Compared to that, nothing else matters.”
In retrospect, it is surprising that these months of plotting by the resistance groups in the Army and the state apparatus, in which dozens of people were involved and of which many more, including very senior Army officers, were aware, apparently totally escaped the attention of the Gestapo. In fact the Gestapo had known since February 1943 of both the Abwehr resistance group under the patronage of Admiral Wilhelm Canaris and of the civilian resistance circle around former Leipzig mayor Carl Goerdeler. If all these people had been arrested and interrogated, the Gestapo might well have uncovered the group based in Army Group Centre as well and the July 20 assassination attempt would never have happened. This raises the possibility that Himmler knew about the plot and, for reasons of his own, allowed it to go ahead.
NOT REALLY. IT DEFINITELY RAISES THE PROBABILITY CANARIS AND HIMMLER WERE GAMING IN A 'DRAW DOWN' OR REDUCTION SEQUENCE, HOWEVER. HELLO. HELLO. CAN ANY OLD[ER] NAZIS HEAR ME?
Himmler had at least one conversation with a known oppositionist when, in August 1943, the Prussian Finance Minister Johannes Popitz, who was involved in Goerdeler's network, came to see him and offered him the support of the opposition if he would make a move to displace Hitler and secure a negotiated end to the war. Nothing came of this meeting, but Popitz was not arrested and Himmler apparently did nothing to track down the resistance network which he knew was operating within the state bureaucracy. WRONG. HE DID NOT STOP IT BUT HE TRACKED IT. AND HE ALSO RAN A WAR - THOSE GUYS REALLY WERE EFFICIENT. It is possible that Himmler, who by late 1943 knew that the war was unwinnable, allowed the July 20 plot to go ahead in the knowledge that if it succeeded he would be Hitler's successor, and could then bring about a peace settlement. Popitz was not alone in seeing in Himmler a potential ally. General von Bock advised Tresckow to seek his support, but there is no evidence that he did so. Goerdeler was apparently also in indirect contact with Himmler via a mutual acquaintance Carl Langbehn. Canaris's biographer Heinz Höhne suggests that Canaris and Himmler were working together [YES] to bring about a change of regime [NO]...... [end citation]
THEY MASTERFULLY MANIPULATED THE RESISTANCE TO THEIR OWN GOVERNMENT. INCREDIBLE. And still have academics kissing their ass and calling it roses. Most people - certainly the blind in academia - think it was resistance but the opposite is true: in fact it was enhancement. NEVER, ever, call the Nazis stupid, because they were not stupid.
Bush, on the other hand, is SWINE. And word on the street is that Dulles - wherever he is and whatever he looks like - does not have as many friends as he thinks he has. It is even possible he had Bush put my brother in the river as some kind of bizarre 'master stroke' I am now trying to make him regret. Double swine. The worst thing about it is that the Nazis really didn't take down guys who were loyal to them, and that is something Bush [and Dulles] specialize in. That is what characterizes them. That is their whole game plan. As follows:
....killed on or about June 3, 1985.... In 1983, Buckley succeeded Ken Haas as the Beirut Station Chief/Political Officer at the U.S. Embassy, but was kidnapped by the Islamist group Hezbollah on March 16, 1984. Hezbollah was closely allied to Iran and Buckley was smuggled to Tehran via Damascus aboard an Iranian plane at some point during his captivity. After undergoing torture, it was soon discovered that he was a senior CIA officer. Buckley was ultimately tortured for 444 days. [Wikipedia, CIA on the internet].
STOP WORKING FOR THE ISRAELIS. Do not serve the Zionist movement.
Finally a supposedly independent commission that actually was independent, and their report gets no respect. Bush has a CIA plan for ethnic segregation in Iraq and doesn't want to compromise now. Shortsighted - if we're there we can't protest that it happened, but if we leave we can always wail in angst over it and maybe get United Nations support to intervene [or re-intervene as it were]. Deniability claiming we weren't in on it and certainly didn't originate the idea.
Their military and police reside in a culture which the Americans can resist but I don't think they can ultimately shape other than by simply killing people and physically dividing the place. French Algeria.
We should leave; PLEASE do not let Bush 'Palestinian-ize' Iraq.
William Buckley [middle] was betrayed by George H.W. Bush and Ted Shackley as a way of bringing Bill Casey and the Reagan administration wholeheartedly into Iran Contra. As noted, conceptually kidnapped March 16, 1984 and killed on or about June 3 1985.
I had a brother, John Roser Bestor, 3rd Inf Reg Old Guard. PRIOR to joining the service he interviewed with a job for the CIA but they apparently did not hire him; AFTER joining the Army he alleged there were loyalty issues in the unit [officers and senior NCOs were educating the troops away from respect for civilian oversight of the military] and promptly drowned in the Potomac mid-May 1984.
Fairly certain George H.W.Bush betrayed Buckley, the proximate timing is certainly of interest to me.
To the best of my knowledge Buckley did die and my brother did drown. At issue is whether Bush betrayed them both. My brother went into the river at the base of a dam, and I can't imagine how anybody could save a struggling man who thought he was drowning - never mind a girl and two other soldiers who were with him [Brian and Raymond]. Two frogmen [Navy Seals] per person with air tanks or breathing devices maybe shared[?] - before smuggling them out of the river for facial recontructive surgery and new lives. Army puts them in the water and all the officers unified in denying it in their contempt for civilian oversight over the military; they probably wouldn't call the cops but just be lucky to get away. If somebody had saved them they would probably split the soldiers up - they might have made my brother marry the girl as a way of locking him down but really the whole thing sounds too extreme.
That is a stretch. Who could command Navy Seals or frogmen anyway. Well, my brother was taking courses at American University and its possible he spoke with a professor about the [dis]loyalty issue. And the professor was maybe tied to the CIA[?] and they heard about the plot and rescued him. They heard about the plot, and then they undertook surveillance to uncover the details of the plot. And rescued them. No, George H.W.Bush commanded the CIA. It wouldn't have been the Agency 'covertly' covertly riding to the rescue. Double undercover covertly.
Perhaps an officer in the 3rd Inf Reg heard talk of the plan and somehow got to a command authority apart from the unit [Army officer thru a mechanism to Navy Seals or anyway damn good frogmen because you wouldn't want the soldiers who thought they were drowning to pull down the guys trying to save them which I bet is a real danger in a stunt like that]. That might initially save the guys, but after that what happens; those secrets generally don't keep [three soldiers, eight frogmen, media interface and ultimately the funerals represent a curve in the road]. Grow a beard and move to Oregon - get out of Dodge. He might let you go - he might not, but I am pretty confident George H.W.Bush would ultimately hear snitches coming back about that because he commands a whole structure of people who are just dying to tell him secrets. In the same time period they kidnapped children and sold them into homosexual slavery [Johnny Gosch 1982], and to the best of my knowledge they never let those guys just escape even after they grew up but if they got away they had to stay in hiding. Mrs. Gosch suggested on Indian reservations. Supposedly Ross Perot had located escaped American POWs in Southeast Asia on the margins of Thailand 1992 but couldn't return them to the United States. That was going to be the 'October Surprise,' and Bush got wind of it and killed it.
If some structure or organization broke you free, my guess is that if they throw you long it might be the Army - somebody's brother has a place in the mountains west of Fort Carson. Grow a beard and work a lift in a ski resort winters. I would think that keeping you close - under their thumb - is almost certainly Agency.
Either way I see George H.W. Bush in on it, and my guess is that if the guys DID NOT drowned or if Buckley did not really die then Bush was behind the whole thing. CIA relentlessly plays both sides of any coin, and Bush may have been intending to create his own 'opposition' as both a way of unifying his supporters and as a way of marginalizing forces in the bureaucracy which were and are against the larger manipulation scenarios. Hush hush secret; what an ***hole. Both Buckley and my brother were ways of attacking civil infrastructure and extending CIA effectivity - I cannot believe my brother once wanted to join the Agency on his own. Misguided.
So if you were to finalize the scenario however unlikely, you might say Bush put them in the river, he pulled them out, and now he probably wants to send them to Iraq to die. Put 'em in, pulled 'em out, ****ed with 'em for years [and they could never quite figure it out - just a bad break; people didn't work for you like they might have worked for somebody else, intangible, 'personality' which put 'em in the water in the first place], and now he wants to kill 'em. BUSH IS SWINE. Were the other soldiers - Brian and Ray - PISSED OFF or what [did they stay in or move on]. Pressure my brother into marrying the girl. Hopefully she's done well by him or really tried with honest effort; he would try for her. Or maybe they laughed and divorced and walked. If you live through the river don't go to Iraq.
Resist without throwing your guys under the tank treads; beware of treachery in a very fluid environment, but most of all stay with the sense of history and what you represent.
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